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spazzy
3 years ago
1st

Cooky_Fucker
3 years ago
Spazzy are you on speed?

juggernaut21
3 years ago
Kinda easy when the roads are wet.(beer)

Far_Away
3 years ago
Yeah that was almost at walking speed.

Loser69
3 years ago
i can do that and you all suck (beer)

Cooky_Fucker
3 years ago
That drifting was crap...he is definitely one of the less qualified to be a drifter.

GlassBull
3 years ago
You can do this in a VW bug in the rain. Big whoop.

Haggis
3 years ago
Old one.

smokie123
3 years ago
u lot are full of shit:?u sit on here every day and then u start hatein on shit u wish u was part of!!!! WANKERS(beer)

TreeClimber
3 years ago
What a bunch of losers.

Dr_Laptop
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 14:12 smokie123 wrote: u lot are full of shit:?u sit on here every day and then u start hatein on shit u wish u was part of!!!! WANKERS(beer)[/quote] What are you talking about? Any of us can go out and slide our car around any time it rains. :?

flix333
3 years ago
Want to see all of you drifting a M3 in the wet as exact as this guy did. Think none of you ever driven a M3. I did several times on BMW Driver Trainings and its not as easy as you think. :D

SSOfficer
3 years ago
I could have done much better job in my '94 Altima!(beer)

Cooky_Fucker
3 years ago
Maybe he can make his balls go sideways in the rain as well...:D

Loser69
3 years ago
i can drift in a Smart, fukkas (beer)

juggernaut21
3 years ago
I never said I could do any better, its all about practice. Im just saying as far as how difficult it is, and its not. When the roads are slick like that it wouldn't be too hard.(beer)

noboundaries
3 years ago
that was pretty tame

dutch_dude
3 years ago
do you guys even know what you're talking about :? why don't you try it. when you xxxxers are finished. tell me how long you kept the m3 on the road. and what things you wrecked with youre free driverslicense. even better.... post it on dumpalink. ill search the vid under losers

w00t
3 years ago
This has got to be the most useless vid ever posted on dumpalink.

Kyl3cook
3 years ago
The guy is called Andre. He had an Evo VII RS before this, and he is a very skilled driver. You can download some of his videos here... http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_downloadvideo.php?id= 6 http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_downloadvideo.php?id= 40 http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_downloadvideo.php?id= 38

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 17:34 dutch_dude wrote: do you guys even know what you're talking about :? why don't you try it. when you xxxxers are finished. tell me how long you kept the m3 on the road. and what things you wrecked with youre free driverslicense. even better.... post it on dumpalink. ill search the vid under losers[/quote] Its driving, no more no less. All it is is practice, no more no less. This can be done by mostly anybody, anyone that has enough brain power and body control can do this. Its not that hard, so don't get your panties in a wad. Im not saying I could go out there and by tomorrow be the best stunt driver in the world, but it can be done it just takes practice, motor skills, and a brain. Its like throwing a ball, I could throw a ball pretty fast(92), my dad could throw 98 mph in highschool, alot of people can throw a fast ball, it turns into how much you can control the direction, then it becomes endurance, what it all comes down to is ALOT Millions, Billions of people could do it, it just takes alittle practice. These types of skills ARE NOT hard to come by. So don't act like this man made the wheel, he just has a easy skill, no more no less. It could become a basic skill of driving if the State saw that it helped improve driving. Ever person who drives could easily pick up this skill. So sit back calm down.(beer)

flix333
3 years ago
You´re so right. And everybody who now how to handle a car should be able to learn how to drive like Michael Schumacher. In your opinion everybody can do that. So what are you dreaming about in the nights? For shure everybody should be able to learn everything, but did you?:(:)

Haggis
3 years ago
Looks good fun but sure as hell wears away tyres and costs money. You would be fined for this sort of driving in the UK. When the vehicles wheels are sliding like this, you are classed as not having proper control of the vehicle in the laws eyes. A boy racer doing wheel spins from start got fined £50 pounds and 3 points.

DukesTT
3 years ago
Utter rubbish. you want sliding. only one, Garry McCoy. make no mistake the guy is a god. admitidly it is two wheels and not four but that just makes it better.

moza
3 years ago
LOL Godius of course it was AWESOME! It was awesome how low you can go with a nice and damn fast beemer!

wiggle012
3 years ago
GERMAN CARS SUCK ASS AT DRIFTING PERIOD

CopyCat
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 17:42 Kyl3cook wrote: The guy is called Andre. He had an Evo VII RS before this, and he is a very skilled driver. You can download some of his videos here... http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_downloadvideo.php?id= 6 http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_downloadvideo.php?id= 40 http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_downloadvideo.php?id= 38 [/quote] Your links say This facility is only available to full MLR members. Too much of a pain. :(

Bikemike
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 11:08 spazzy wrote: 1st[/quote] Notice the camera car goes the same speed yet doesn't drift? M3 has bald rear tires to set up the drif

moza
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 22:01 wiggle012 wrote: GERMAN CARS SUCK ASS AT DRIFTING PERIOD[/quote] LOL Maybe you should turn off that little button called ESP if you want to go for a little drifting. ESP :? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Stability_Contr ol Damn noobs around here

mak10
3 years ago
not even a drift. The back tires were spinning, he was still applying throttle. Lame video.

jtdunesman50
3 years ago
i can do that in my 88 chevy s-10

crazy0fart
3 years ago
I can do that in my 65 Rambler.

Bikemike
3 years ago
Seeing a guy do this on a superbike or speedbike at 80 mph or faster on dry pavement is more impressive in my book.

DukesTT
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 22:56 Bikemike wrote: Seeing a guy do this on a superbike or speedbike at 80 mph or faster on dry pavement is more impressive in my book.[/quote] [quote]Utter rubbish. you want sliding. only one, Garry McCoy. make no mistake the guy is a god. admitidly it is two wheels and not four but that just makes it better.[/quote] i dont usually quote myself, but there you go

rockape
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 22:32 Bikemike wrote: [..] Notice the camera car goes the same speed yet doesn't drift? M3 has bald rear tires to set up the drif [/quote] the recent BMW M3 CSL was sold with illegal slick road tires, apprantley you had to sign a waver saying that you would buy a new set once you leave the forcourt.

sir_winston
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 11:08 spazzy wrote: 1st[/quote] who fucking cares?! That was a drift, of course the back tyres were spinning, hence lack of grip, hence arse end out. Of course he was applying throttle, thats how you keep a drift in motion, the car isnt going to get itself sideways is it? you penis! As for CSL tyres being sold with illegal tyres, that's crap, whoever told you that should be shot, they were sold with road LEGAL half slick tyres, though you did have to sign a waver saying that you understood that they would not give much grip in bad conditions, why would a large company like BMW sell a car with illegal tyres on it?

Zagaroth_22
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 14:40 flix333 wrote: Want to see all of you drifting a M3 in the wet as exact as this guy did. Think none of you ever driven a M3. I did several times on BMW Driver Trainings and its not as easy as you think. :D[/quote] BULL S**T U DONT HAVE A BMW SO STOP F**KING LYING

rockape
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 23:39 sir_winston wrote: [..] who fucking cares?! That was a drift, of course the back tyres were spinning, hence lack of grip, hence arse end out. Of course he was applying throttle, thats how you keep a drift in motion, the car isnt going to get itself sideways is it? you penis! As for CSL tyres being sold with illegal tyres, that's crap, whoever told you that should be shot, they were sold with road LEGAL half slick tyres, though you did have to sign a waver saying that you understood that they would not give much grip in bad conditions, why would a large company like BMW sell a car with illegal tyres on it? [/quote] my mistake :( i took the slick tires too literally (although i didnt mean full racing slick) just heard they had <1.6mm tread on them)

Rosho
3 years ago
Nothing awesome about it!!

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 19:41 flix333 wrote: You´re so right. And everybody who now how to handle a car should be able to learn how to drive like Michael Schumacher. In your opinion everybody can do that. So what are you dreaming about in the nights? For shure everybody should be able to learn everything, but did you?:(:)[/quote] No I don't dream about becoming some stunt driver, Im not a big fan of Fast and the Furious movies and ideas, if you do dream of all that then rock on. But it dosen't take that much skill to do this, its a car its driving its not that impressive, im sure you or me or ALOT of other people could drift in about 2 to 5 days of practice. All that aside hes on a WET ROAD. If drifting is just controlled sliding sideways for alittle while then Ive done it, friends and family have done it, ANY SNOT NOSE KID WITH A CAR AND A HEAVY FOOT HAS DONE IT. ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE ITS DRIVING!. Grow up man, THINK before you type/speak.(beer)(beer)(beer)(beer)(beer)

FUCKINEH
3 years ago
You tell em' juggernaut21....it's how we roll , around here (beer)(beer)

ADUDE
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 01:00 juggernaut21 wrote: [..] No I don't dream about becoming some stunt driver, Im not a big fan of Fast and the Furious movies and ideas, if you do dream of all that then rock on. But it dosen't take that much skill to do this, its a car its driving its not that impressive, im sure you or me or ALOT of other people could drift in about 2 to 5 days of practice. All that aside hes on a WET ROAD. If drifting is just controlled sliding sideways for alittle while then Ive done it, friends and family have done it, ANY SNOT NOSE KID WITH A CAR AND A HEAVY FOOT HAS DONE IT. ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE ITS DRIVING!. Grow up man, THINK before you type/speak.(beer)(beer)(beer)(beer)(beer)[/quote] i do hav to say that driftin like that is not a thing any fool can do... sure any fool can make a car go sideways but can any fool control it, do it neatly.....its like football any fool can kick a ball into a net.......but it wouldnt be the worlds biggest sport if there were'nt serious skill needed....just like driftin you have driftin shows & contests coz not any fool can drift.......same goes for baseball any fool can whack a ball with a bat........but skill is needed ;) you get my drift dawg ;)

K1NG
3 years ago
thts not hard at all

TreeClimber
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 01:15 ADUDE wrote: [..] i do hav to say that driftin like that is not a thing any fool can do... sure any fool can make a car go sideways but can any fool control it, do it neatly.....its like football any fool can kick a ball into a net.......but it wouldnt be the worlds biggest sport if there were'nt serious skill needed....just like driftin you have driftin shows & contests coz not any fool can drift.......same goes for baseball any fool can whack a ball with a bat........but skill is needed ;) you get my drift dawg ;) [/quote] very little skill, you just need a wet road, good front brakes, a little power. and brake-accelarator cordination, the tires don't necessarily need to be bald as some others suggested, and of course some open road, no problem.(beer)

ADUDE
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 04:54 TreeClimber wrote: [..] very little skill, you just need a wet road, good front brakes, a little power. and brake-accelarator cordination, the tires don't necessarily need to be bald as some others suggested, and of course some open road, no problem.(beer)[/quote] im not sayin its hard to do, but to do it properly with style & control. this guy was driftin all da way round the roundabout.....with out losing control or losing his drift...now thats clean, neat & with style. like i said any fool can kick a ball into the net but can they kick it like ronahldiniho <<<misspelled.....with style & control. ;)

MePHeX
3 years ago
my first post on this site lol :D ... ok, first off, I drift, so please don't reply to my post telling me I'm wrong ;)... I have 2 cars I do drift, my oldschool mr2 and my new scooby:D... I don't own a m3, but I have drifted one before... they are one of the easier cars to drift, and with slicked tires and rain, yes, anyone can slide their car around but to do precision drifting is not easy... the guy in the video does have some skills, but its true that he is not doing a real drift, well, it is, its called a braking drift, used only for show and is one of the first basic skills you learn when you first start drifting (final being dynamic drift) so its not really something to be proud of... but juggernaut21's comment is completely false... drifting is highly skilled, and is not simply a matter of practicing... thats like saying that anyone can be as smart as einstein if they read enough books, or play basketball like michael jordon if they played everyday... yes, practice and learning does get you very far up the competative ladders of any sport or career, but what seperates those who are good at what they do from those who are great is inate ability or "talent" (by this I mean your genetic predisposition of your physical or mental abilities, btw, I'm a neuroscience major, so don't argue with me here either ;))... and if anyone still doesn't believe that drifting is one if these god given ability that cannot be mastered without talent, then just type the name Keiichi Tsuchiya in google ^^

Bassmaximus
3 years ago
Nice drifting... Not a bad effort. For most of you that say this is easy, send in your videos as proof... otherwise keep on wanking infront of your computer monitors. (beer) Memphex - I do agree on you with genetic predisopsition in high level sports. And these days if u don't have any of the genetic markers ie; ACTN3 and ACE proteins, your chances of getting into high level sports are nil. In saying this though, anyone can learn to drift and drift well, and this is what we are talking about here. And no, you can not drift in just any car... front wheel drive cars, don't even try to drift in those... you need good power, LSD diff and good car balance and of course skills. This guy has obliously practiced and is aware of his cars dynamics. (beer)(beer)

MePHeX
3 years ago
lol, it is very possible to drift in ANY car, power, lsd (the "diff" isn't needed the d stands for differential lol) are definitly bare minimum if you want to make a hobby of drifting, but to play around to see if u can get the hang of it, you don't need to waste any money... I started learning on my corolla, with less than 100hp, fwd and to make matters worse, it was an auto trans... but all that means is that your going to need much higher speeds to perform shorter drifts, its more difficult but its doable and drifting does require some inate abilities... for example, the ability of your otolith and canals to pickup on the feel of your car... obviously since drifting requires far more skill than sprint runners, its hard to pin point a "drifting" gene ;) ... as far as your comment on the actin binding protein, although it does improve athletic performance, it does not mean that if u lack it you will never be able to compete

jahmbo
3 years ago
is this BMW a rear wheel drive? I thought they were all front wheel?

Loser69
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 23:07 rockape wrote: [..] the recent BMW M3 CSL was sold with illegal slick road tires, apprantley you had to sign a waver saying that you would buy a new set once you leave the forcourt.[/quote] MORON

MePHeX
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 07:43 jahmbo wrote: is this BMW a rear wheel drive? I thought they were all front wheel?[/quote] the m3 is rwd, much like many other bmw performance cars

Bassmaximus
3 years ago
Hehehe... most newbie drifters start with the Toyota sprinter/ AE86. Great 1st car for drifting. Most people choose rear wheel drive cars because they are better balanced for the swaying motion of drifting and better control is achieved by addinf or reducing power in the rear wnen drifting. Yes thats correct you can still compete, but what seperates the competitors to the elete level competitors as you mentioned before is the genetic makeup. And now athletes as youg as 16 are tested for their genetic makeup. Now we need to find the gene for the human spirit.. LoL (beer)

jahmbo
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 07:49 MePHeX wrote: [..] the m3 is rwd, much like many other bmw performance cars[/quote] thanks :)

MePHeX
3 years ago
np jahmbo ^^ bassmaximus, the ae86 is something that people use to try to mimic the drift king (his first car) or tacomi from "initial D" (an anime about drifting)... anyone who trys to start drifting with an ae86 for these two purposes usually will be shown no respect lol... most people who are more serious about drifting usually go for the silvia (in northamerica, 240sx with Sr20det transpant)... me personally, I went for the mr2 for more balance so easier to do dynamic drifting... when I switched over to my scooby, it took me about a month to get use to the changes, but man, 4wd takes the "fun" out of drifting but puts in into more practical uses, but since I put most of my time into dynamic drifting, it worked out in my favour

chichi
3 years ago
i like to drift on my waterbed !!Any objections Mr. MePHeX!! Relax man !! Yr live don`t depend on it ! Drifting in a Scooby Doo! Whata madman !! Woahhhhhhhhhhh(j)

MePHeX
3 years ago
lol, drifting is one of my hobbies I guess ^^ and a scooby is an impreza, not the dog from scooby doo

flix333
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 22:32 Bikemike wrote: [..] Notice the camera car goes the same speed yet doesn't drift? M3 has bald rear tires to set up the drif [/quote] Just for the non Car-Drivers to know: Going sideways is allways slower than doing not. So for the same Car on same Tires is allwas easy to follow the one who goes sideways. Everybody ever did a racetrack should know that. This is one of the first things you learn on theorethics for Carracing. Greetings from www.m5-jens.de (beer) And : ALL BMW are rwd exept of the ones with the 4wd option.

chichi
3 years ago
an impreza wtf dou you like espresso ....

Wazoo
3 years ago
If i ever saw someone drifting on purpose on the highway I would take down his license plate number..................... then call my cop buddy up find out where he lived drag him out to the street and put his head under my front tire and use it as a speed bump, do your gay ass drifting where someone (other then yourself) won't get hurt not a fucking public road. P.S. same goes for street racers and any other dumbass (lets see how close we can come to killing people) wannabe car sport.

MePHeX
3 years ago
flix, I'm not sure what u mean by "Going sideways is allways slower than doing not"... if your implying that drifting is ALWAYS slower than grip style racing, then thats not entirely true... drifting is used professionally to overcome the shortcomings of the car... this ofcourse does not apply for f1 since the aerodynamics of the cars will not allow them to drift, they either grip, or spin out... and this does not apply for daytona races (which I don't count as racing:?).... .... real drifting is used to mantain or try to maintain speeds while changing vectors... ofcourse if the car can do with at those speeds then you don't have a problem... but if the car would tend to spin out when turning at those speeds, then dynamic drifting is the only option... other than that, you would have to slow down to initiate the turn

chichi
3 years ago
a good racer don`t use the steering wheel ..

MePHeX
3 years ago
chichi lol, why do u bother commenting on a topic u dont understand? wazoo, I do agree, drifting should be kept strictly on the tracks or closed street circuit (also open parking lots ^^)... but now, how is a cop going to arrest someone he did not observe commit the crime:? ... I dunno what the laws are in the states, but here in canada, police officers can't arrest people for traffic infractions unless they are witness to it, or have recorded evidance

chichi
3 years ago
its true man a good racer don`t use the steering wheel man he is drifting through the bends man by only using his brakes man i know man i was the mate of Shoemaker you complete drifter ..;) are you in any any way related to Zecheezie lol lol lol (j)

Wazoo
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 09:34 MePHeX wrote: chichi lol, why do u bother commenting on a topic u dont understand? wazoo, I do agree, drifting should be kept strictly on the tracks or closed street circuit (also open parking lots ^^)... but now, how is a cop going to arrest someone he did not observe commit the crime:? ... I dunno what the laws are in the states, but here in canada, police officers can't arrest people for traffic infractions unless they are witness to it, or have recorded evidance[/quote] Highways should have 2 speed limits 1. Anything over the first speed limit (like 50-80mph's) speeding ticket. 2. Anything over the second speed limit (80mph's +) should be automatic attempted murder or at the very least assault with a deadly weapon. Same thing goes for anything on a public road that's illegal or endangers lives by doing something the cars not suppose to do. Assualt with a deadly weapon don't pass go don't have to collect an innocent victim's brains off the street. Bet your ass car accidents and fatalities would almost drop off the map pretty damn fast. Same goes for drunk drivers. If your caught driving over the legal limit i say it's attempted murder and I don't wanna hear your excuses or sob stories.

chichi
3 years ago
no sir your are right sir tghank you sir for yr wise lesson and i still want to drive at a high speed sir so what sir :D

raymondo
3 years ago
;'(

MePHeX
3 years ago
nope, no such laws in canada... and no, I doubt its a charge of attempted murder in the states since in order to be convicted guilty of attempted murder, you need to establish motive... thats like saying if I waved around a baseball bat in the park, then its possible for someone to arrest me for attempted murder lol... as for imposing harsher laws... well, I'm going to assume that u are american lol... look, harsher laws do not change anything, just look at america and gun violence lol

Bassmaximus
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 09:18 flix333 wrote: [..] Just for the non Car-Drivers to know: Going sideways is allways slower than doing not. So for the same Car on same Tires is allwas easy to follow the one who goes sideways. Everybody ever did a racetrack should know that. This is one of the first things you learn on theorethics for Carracing. Greetings from www.m5-jens.de (beer) Same speed is maintained with both cars, difference with drifting BMW is that his weight is transferred to the rear and power applied sending the car into a drift. (Notice how he banks left then hard right, this transfers the weight to the rear left wheel). The other maintains same speed, weight is dristributer to the outer left wheels, power is kept down resulting in no drift and slide. And : ALL BMW are rwd exept of the ones with the 4wd option. [/quote]

flix333
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 09:29 MePHeX wrote: flix, I'm not sure what u mean by "Going sideways is allways slower than doing not"... if your implying that drifting is ALWAYS slower than grip style racing, then thats not entirely true... drifting is used professionally to overcome the shortcomings of the car... this ofcourse does not apply for f1 since the aerodynamics of the cars will not allow them to drift, they either grip, or spin out... and this does not apply for daytona races (which I don't count as racing:?).... .... real drifting is used to mantain or try to maintain speeds while changing vectors... ofcourse if the car can do with at those speeds then you don't have a problem... but if the car would tend to spin out when turning at those speeds, then dynamic drifting is the only option... other than that, you would have to slow down to initiate the turn[/quote] I learned at Raceschool that Drifting is really slower, we tried that on Track and it really is. Drifting is common on Rally where you hve Sand and other slippy grounds. There the drivts are used to keep the rpm of the engine high, wich gives you a better chance to get fast at the following straight. Thats why racers call this the Rally-Style. But on Track going sideways allways slows you down. It ist much fun to drive and to see, but its slower than doing not. Watch any Race on Track, not Rallies. You will not see any Racecar drifting through the Corners. Sometimes it hapens on wet track just because of loosing traction. But if they can go without any drift they allways try to arrange this. (Sorry for bad english, im german. In german this would be much easier to explain for me). Keep racing guys.......(j)

MePHeX
3 years ago
again... braking drift is almost NEVER used competatively since it slows you down... always dynamic drift ^^

Bassmaximus
3 years ago
MePHeX - U have any pics of your Suby in action or belong to any forums where I can check out your ride Here is my car, it's nothing special, but it does go good in a straight line ;) http://www.v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58 661 I have used my car in a few drift sessions, but it will never compare to a WRX or lighter type cars.. haha but it's fun none the less...

TXLoneStar
3 years ago
WRX is a 4x4 and i cant see how it would do any better that a rear wheel drive. not that im braging.........because i have an acura integra FWD with 225 hp so i can not drift. ;'( but i can pull a mean 1/4 mile. 10.9 buddy YEAHYA (beer)

MePHeX
3 years ago
flix, I'm not sure what type of racing ur studying for :? so I dunno what type of cars u used on the tracks... but assuming ur talking about le mans for f1 type racing since in both, dynamic drifting would be very hard at those speeds... with street legal cars, it has been my experience that drifting (when performed properly) will always be faster... if you ever come to canada flix, come find me and we'll test out your theory ^^ Bassmaximus, your link doesn't work T.T, here's a couple pics of my scooby, its a 99 turbo, added a microtech ecu to it hehehe http://pics-25.hi5.com/userpics/725/150/150302725.img.j pg http://pics-31.hi5.com/userpics/731/150/150302731.img.j pg TXLoneStar, my scooby is definitly more suitable for grip, but when the conditions call for it, drifting it is awesome ^^... as for your integra, doin e brake drifts should be no problem but this will give u a loss of speed... trying practicing heel toe as well, just don't blow ur tranny ;)

TXLoneStar
3 years ago
im not into that though but good advice :) im strictly speed man. ive had a few friends total there cars trying that stuff on the streets and i dont mess with it. Day driver, and track ( 1/4 mile) did i say im drunk (beer)

MePHeX
3 years ago
lol np man, to each their own ^^ ... my scooby's 1/4 is 9.8 :P mwahahaha, its sad though, I've dropped so much money into my little car now (j), oh btw, the links have an extra space, here's what they're suppose to be http://pics-25.hi5.com/userpics/725/150/150302725.img.j pg http://pics-31.hi5.com/userpics/731/150/150302731.img.j pg

Bassmaximus
3 years ago
**http://www.v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t= 58661 if not then go here... **http://www.cardomain.com/ride/576698 Hope it works...

MePHeX
3 years ago
hmm, ic dumplink inserts spaces in posted links lol... didnt know that... wow, very awesome commodore, we don't have any aussie cars here in canada so to me, this is an exotic car hehe ^^

Bassmaximus
3 years ago
Thnx MePHex - it's very common here in OZ hehehe Your Scooby looks great too... WRX's are a total package, if I had the chance I would buy a WRX but insurance here in OZ is almost criminal!! $6000 for comprehensive insurance reason - high theft rate on the Rexy, young fools that do not know how to drive and crash leaving a BIG cleanup bill.

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 06:49 MePHeX wrote: my first post on this site lol :D ... ok, first off, I drift, so please don't reply to my post telling me I'm wrong ;)... I have 2 cars I do drift, my oldschool mr2 and my new scooby:D... I don't own a m3, but I have drifted one before... they are one of the easier cars to drift, and with slicked tires and rain, yes, anyone can slide their car around but to do precision drifting is not easy... the guy in the video does have some skills, but its true that he is not doing a real drift, well, it is, its called a braking drift, used only for show and is one of the first basic skills you learn when you first start drifting (final being dynamic drift) so its not really something to be proud of... but juggernaut21's comment is completely false... drifting is highly skilled, and is not simply a matter of practicing... thats like saying that anyone can be as smart as einstein if they read enough books, or play basketball like michael jordon if they played everyday... yes, practice and learning does get you very far up the competative ladders of any sport or career, but what seperates those who are good at what they do from those who are great is inate ability or "talent" (by this I mean your genetic predisposition of your physical or mental abilities, btw, I'm a neuroscience major, so don't argue with me here either ;))... and if anyone still doesn't believe that drifting is one if these god given ability that cannot be mastered without talent, then just type the name Keiichi Tsuchiya in google ^^ [/quote] So it takes a natural driving talent to drift? I think not, Im not saying you can't drift, but don't act like drifting is God's gift to the select few. Like I said anyone with a brain, average motor skills, and limited practice can learn how to do this. Now you bringing Einstein, and Michael Jordon into this is foolish in a way. Comparing Einstein to an easy skill like Drifting is EXTREMELY FOOLISH. People

chichi
3 years ago
my motorbike Ducati the best accelerate in 3 seconds from 0 to 60 miles p/h. thank you :D

Bikemike
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 10:28 flix333 wrote: [..] I learned at Raceschool that Drifting is really slower, we tried that on Track and it really is. Drifting is common on Rally where you hve Sand and other slippy grounds. There the drivts are used to keep the rpm of the engine high, wich gives you a better chance to get fast at the following straight. Thats why racers call this the Rally-Style. But on Track going sideways allways slows you down. It ist much fun to drive and to see, but its slower than doing not. Watch any Race on Track, not Rallies. You will not see any Racecar drifting through the Corners. Sometimes it hapens on wet track just because of loosing traction. But if they can go without any drift they allways try to arrange this. (Sorry for bad english, im german. In german this would be much easier to explain for me). Keep racing guys.......(j)[/quote] It's all about power, centrifical force, traction and balance. By balance, I mean weight distribution between front and back of vehicle. You could never drift like this in a VW beetle because most of the weight is in the rear and you don't have enough power. Drifting in racing is done almost all of the time when racing on dirt where traction is minimal. Controled rifting is also done when racing on pavement or concrete. Why? Because a controled drift can be faster depending on the amount of traction and power available. You are right in that with excellent traction, such as in most asphalt track conditions, it is more efficient to corner with little or no drift, where both front and rear wheels are just on the cusp of breaking loose.

chichi
3 years ago
I LIKE TO CORNER WITH MY AK 47 BUT NO USE :D

Sylver
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 09:18 flix333 wrote: [..] And : ALL BMW are rwd exept of the ones with the 4wd option. [/quote] He's right (beer)

MePHeX
3 years ago
lol juggernaut21 u sound like chichi, don't talk about things u dont understand ^^... this is gonna be my last time to explain to you, after which I'll ignore u as I do her... ... drifting if far more than just a learned ability, and my Einstein analogy is very apt, u dont expect people who just learn math to do as well as Einstein either lol... u know as much about drifting as a highschool student does math so really, how can u even put up a proper arguement against it?

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 13:31 MePHeX wrote: lol juggernaut21 u sound like chichi, don't talk about things u dont understand ^^... this is gonna be my last time to explain to you, after which I'll ignore u as I do her... ... drifting if far more than just a learned ability, and my Einstein analogy is very apt, u dont expect people who just learn math to do as well as Einstein either lol... u know as much about drifting as a highschool student does math so really, how can u even put up a proper arguement against it?[/quote] Ignore me or not it doesn't matter because your STILL WRONG, drifting is an easy skill to come by, so don't get your Fast and the Furious underwear in a bunch.

MePHeX
3 years ago
lol, fast and furious isn't drifting... tsk, oh well... nvmd then, no point reasoning with the unreasonable ^^... when someone who knows more than ya speaks, u should listen, not argue

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 13:39 MePHeX wrote: lol, fast and furious isn't drifting... tsk, oh well... nvmd then, no point reasoning with the unreasonable ^^... when someone who knows more than ya speaks, u should listen, not argue[/quote] All Im trying to do is tell you how it is, if you want to be blind to it than thats your choice but don't blow some easy skill into something its not. But its your opinion and I can't change that, but I know how it goes. Maybe it was a hard skill for "you" to come by, but its not a hard skill to learn. (beer)

chichi
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 13:39 MePHeX wrote: lol, fast and furious isn't drifting... tsk, oh well... nvmd then, no point reasoning with the unreasonable ^^... when someone who knows more than ya speaks, u should listen, not argue[/quote] WHY DON`T YOU PISS OFF SCHOOLMASTER HIHIHIHIHIHIHI(j)

sir_winston
3 years ago
Roackape, you are excused about the tyres, have pint on me old chum (beer) Juggernaught/Sparky, you are yet again being a jumped up little twat, drifting is not easy, there's a diference between getting sideways, and proper drifting, whilst it might be easy to start a drift, it certainly isnt easy to control and maintain it, it's taken me a good few years to learn it. You cant just give anyone a high performance RWD car and tell him to drift, the first thing they'll do is crash it. Hopefully into a tree, with you in the passenger seat. Perhaps a good skill for you to learn would be knowing when to 'shut the fuck up'

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 15:19 sir_winston wrote: Roackape, you are excused about the tyres, have pint on me old chum (beer) Juggernaught/Sparky, you are yet again being a jumped up little twat, drifting is not easy, there's a diference between getting sideways, and proper drifting, whilst it might be easy to start a drift, it certainly isnt easy to control and maintain it, it's taken me a good few years to learn it. You cant just give anyone a high performance RWD car and tell him to drift, the first thing they'll do is crash it. Hopefully into a tree, with you in the passenger seat. Perhaps a good skill for you to learn would be knowing when to 'shut the fuck up'[/quote] Thats why you need to read what I wrote you piss stain, it takes a brain, average motor skills, and practice to do this. You must lack if these pasic skills if it took you 3 years to do it. So take your own advice " shut the fuck up"(beer)

MePHeX
3 years ago
lol, takes more than just that, but hey... why argue with juggernaut21, someone who obviously knows nothing

sir_winston
3 years ago
Yeah, think you right mate, obviously cunt face is right and everybody else is wrong, the experienced drifters amongst us have been doing it wrong all these years............ Fucking spastic, where did i say 3 years, i said a few. Prick, but then you know eveything, so who are we to argue. Hope you die soon (beer)

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 17-03-06 17:59 MePHeX wrote: lol, takes more than just that, but hey... why argue with juggernaut21, someone who obviously knows nothing[/quote] Don't argue with me, AND I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. If you want to believe its a "SUPER HARD SKILL" to learn and only a handful of people can do it, then so be it. Sir_ winston I like to see how pissed off you get when people don't buy into your BIG LOAD OF SHIT! Not every body here agrees with your asseyed view. Oh and I said 3 years because few means 3 or more. When you say I had a few beers, that means you had at least "3 beers". So when I said 3 years I gave you the least amount that "FEW" stands for, have a problem with it then be just a bit more careful with what you type. (not that im saying it has to be perfect) But if you mean't 2 years then use the word COUPLE and not the word FEW, if you don't want someone to think you at least mean't 3.(beer) You can say DRIFTING is hard thing to do BUT IT'S NOT. Learning how to Rollerblade would be much harder. Like I said I've done it, family has done it, any snot nose kid with a heavy foot has done it. The longest one Ive seen done was 200+ yards long,(while i was in the car with the guy) it was cool but not all that hard of a thing to do. I still think it looks badass but one last time, its NOT HARD TO DO, EASY SKILL. (beer)

sir_winston
3 years ago
bearing in mind, i'm from england, a few means 5 to us (and I used the word FEW as a genaralisation - not to pinpoint exactly how long it's taken), but it has taken me about 5 and a bit years to learn how to drift properly, mainly because I cant do it 24/7, and because it's a hobby for me, not a profession. I dont get the chance to do it as much as I would like. It takes some people longer then others to learn, we not all superhuman, unlike yourself of course. I really couldnt give a fuck about anyone agreeing with my 'asseyed view' as you so delightfully put it (is asseyed even a word?), not everyone has the same opinion, but at least most of us know when we are beaten and when we are not. And i'd rather you didnt tell me how to use a keyboard and the english language, if i had meant 2 years, i would have fucking said a couple. Now we all know he is really pissed off, when no-one agress with them now don't we.........

Bikemike
3 years ago
Hey, if you want to practice your drifting, come to Canada in the winter. Here, one of the first things we learn is sticking it sideways on a snowy road and doing doughnuts in snow covered parking lots. Lots of fun!

Bassmaximus
3 years ago
Hehe, some one mentioned that drifting requires centrifugal force, I ask you, what has this force got to do woth drifting... think of a centrifugal supercharger and how that works and then compare this force of motion and apply this to a drift??? hehehehehe Now some of you say that drifting is easy to learn and yes u r correct it is relativley easy to learn. It's the techniques that hare hard... Jugernaut21 - U say u drifted for 2 hundred yards, congratulations u have just learned to put a vehicle sideways. Now go to a drifting competition with your knowledge and skills and have a rip around a track. I dare say that your 200 yard drift would not go very far on a track.

Bikemike
3 years ago
Playing the violin is easy. Playing it well is something else. Get the drift?

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 00:19 sir_winston wrote: bearing in mind, i'm from england, a few means 5 to us (and I used the word FEW as a genaralisation - not to pinpoint exactly how long it's taken), but it has taken me about 5 and a bit years to learn how to drift properly, mainly because I cant do it 24/7, and because it's a hobby for me, not a profession. I dont get the chance to do it as much as I would like. It takes some people longer then others to learn, we not all superhuman, unlike yourself of course. I really couldnt give a fuck about anyone agreeing with my 'asseyed view' as you so delightfully put it (is asseyed even a word?), not everyone has the same opinion, but at least most of us know when we are beaten and when we are not. And i'd rather you didnt tell me how to use a keyboard and the english language, if i had meant 2 years, i would have fucking said a couple. Now we all know he is really pissed off, when no-one agress with them now don't we.........[/quote] So it takes a SUPERMAN to drift, you are the BIGGEST FUCKING DUMBASS I HAVE EVER MET. asseyed isn't a word , asinine is what I should have typed but I went ahead and typed ass eyed for my own spin on it. As for your country using "few" to mean 5, I think thats a lie.Few can mean 2 but it is MAINLY used to represent 3 or more. Im not a superman but Im not an ignorant jackass like you. I know for a FACT that drifting is not hard to do, like I said Ive been in a car that did it for 200+ yards, its not that difficult. If it took you around 5 years to be any good at it then your one of the few that isn't that good at learning a new easy driving skill, hope people stay away from you while driving because you must be dangerous behind the wheel. 5 years to learn how to drift, just sounds sad when you read it, but I don't want to take away from your limited ability so congrats. You must have some kind of motor skills problem or maybe its mental, I honestly fee

Blackbeard
3 years ago
Looked like it would take some practice to me ..

MePHeX
3 years ago
juggernaut21, no on said u need to be "superman" to drift competitively, those are ur own words... we who actually CAN drift competatively are explaining to ur ignorant ass that drifting takes skills, simply saying that u can slide ur car around isn't drifting, thats like saying that if u can strum a guitar or stroke a violin, u can become a musical prodigy lol [quote]On 18-03-06 00:50 Bikemike wrote: Playing the violin is easy. Playing it well is something else. Get the drift?[/quote] well said, cheers (beer) oh Bassmaximus, I think what the person meant when he was talkin about centrifugal force, he meant that when ur car initiates a drift, it uses intertia (original vector) and the car's power (changed vector) to drift, that is centrifugal force, about the center of the radial change in vectors.... hope that helps clear things up a bit ^^... whoever posted that, if I'm wrong, please correct :?

Smix
3 years ago
[quote]On 16-03-06 15:43 Loser69 wrote: i can drift in a Smart, fukkas (beer)[/quote] ....why am I not surprised you drive a Smart......:D

FUCKINEH
3 years ago
This whole , drifting thing is just daft ...sorry , had to be said . :o

MePHeX
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 08:20 FUCKINEH wrote: This whole , drifting thing is just daft ...sorry , had to be said . :o[/quote] great... another juggernaut21 lol

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 02:15 MePHeX wrote: juggernaut21, no on said u need to be "superman" to drift competitively, those are ur own words... we who actually CAN drift competatively are explaining to ur ignorant ass that drifting takes skills, simply saying that u can slide ur car around isn't drifting, thats like saying that if u can strum a guitar or stroke a violin, u can become a musical prodigy lol [..] [/quote] Ignorant nothin, I give credit to people with skills but not some little easy trick in a car, like I said there will be a few people that are damn near perfect at drifting but its not hard to learn how to do it. Ok I want to know what you compare Drifting to, like as in hard as learning how to play a violin? The way you guys go on seems like you think its Brain Surgery. I never said I was a Superman/Superhuman that was Sir_Winston that started that shit. Like I said I was with a buddy of mine that did a 200+yard drift, it wasn't me driving, plus it was a 1998 Toyota Truck Tacoma 4x4. It was really cool but not all that difficult. So stop being stupid about drifting and wake up. (Drifting is easy, stop crying because people know its not hard.)(beer)

FUCKINEH
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 09:27 MePHeX wrote: [..] great... another juggernaut21 lol[/quote] You what ? Sorry , but it doesn't flick my switch :) I love speed , don't get me wrong....my bmx kicks ass :D

MePHeX
3 years ago
lol juggernaut21 is just sad, oh well... can't expect everyone to have enough brain cells to understand -.-

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 11:02 MePHeX wrote: lol juggernaut21 is just sad, oh well... can't expect everyone to have enough brain cells to understand -.-[/quote] Thats the best you can come up with!? Thats it, damn now I feel bad for putting your stupidass in your fucking place. Good thing your backing down, no need to keep showing people how dim witted you are. Besides all that what can we talk about now?(beer)

MePHeX
3 years ago
if u haven't realized yet... there hasn't been one person to post on this thread who has agreed with u... lol... the reason this discussion is pointless, u have pointed out well... but the dim witted one clearly is u, there's no need for me to really point that out since anyone who has particapated in this thread or is reading it can see that clearly

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 11:31 MePHeX wrote: if u haven't realized yet... there hasn't been one person to post on this thread who has agreed with u... lol... the reason this discussion is pointless, u have pointed out well... but the dim witted one clearly is u, there's no need for me to really point that out since anyone who has particapated in this thread or is reading it can see that clearly[/quote] Damn you are pathetic to no end. Your wrong now and by the looks of how you think you will be proven wrong ALOT in your lifetime. Keep going around comparing drifting to playing the violin, or even brain surgery, see how many times you will be laughed at. Your trying to turn lead into gold, no matter what you do it ain't gonna happen. Welcome to the real world, you can pick up a bumper sticker on the way out.(beer)

CopyCat
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 11:31 MePHeX wrote: if u haven't realized yet... there hasn't been one person to post on this thread who has agreed with u... lol... the reason this discussion is pointless, u have pointed out well... but the dim witted one clearly is u, there's no need for me to really point that out since anyone who has particapated in this thread or is reading it can see that clearly[/quote] Well, here I I'm. I'm with the Jug on this one. Drifting is not all that hard, maybe you have never tried it I don't know. But it's not like playing a violin. It's more like playing a comb with a piece of paper over it. lol. :D

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 11:52 CopyCat wrote: [..] Well, here I I'm. I'm with the Jug on this one. Drifting is not all that hard, maybe you have never tried it I don't know. But it's not like playing a violin. It's more like playing a comb with a piece of paper over it. lol. :D[/quote] LOL, right on. (beer)

MePHeX
3 years ago
lol, I play the violin, and I'm studying neuroscience, so all the things I have mentioned in my analogies are at least with topics that I have first hand knowledge of, u on the other hand, have no grounds for ur premises... ... as for your analogy, lead CAN be turned into gold... but, I'll trying teach u one thing at a time juggernaut21 ... and yes, please, do come join us in the real world where facts are the bases for arguments and not personal opinion

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 12:01 MePHeX wrote: lol, I play the violin, and I'm studying neuroscience, so all the things I have mentioned in my analogies are at least with topics that I have first hand knowledge of, u on the other hand, have no grounds for ur premises... ... as for your analogy, lead CAN be turned into gold... but, I'll trying teach u one thing at a time juggernaut21 ... and yes, please, do come join us in the real world where facts are the bases for arguments and not personal opinion[/quote] Oh so now you know how to perform Alchemy, you just keep looking like more of an idiot every time you post. I've played the Violin also, not that I was good I just tried it a few times. You look like a huge retard because you basically compared on a difficulty level that drifting is as hard to do as playing the Violin very well, and performing BRAIN SURGERY! I told you to stop but no you just want to keep showing everyone your true ignorance. Well keep it up, just makes me laugh. Im not learnig one fucking thing from you, I don't know who could. I live in the real world, your still not even here yet, your still lost in never never land. If you want to keep looking loke a fool I would be more than happy to bury you in all the shit you keep posting.(beer)

KILDA_BLAX
3 years ago
lol mephex u may have some knowledge and smarts, but part of being in the real world is being able to relate your knowledge/experiences w others and all u have done is act like a prick. believe me, no one thinks youre better than them. now b4 u dig the hole any deeper, i suggest u kill yourself:)

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 12:27 KILDA_BLAX wrote: lol mephex u may have some knowledge and smarts, but part of being in the real world is being able to relate your knowledge/experiences w others and all u have done is act like a prick. believe me, no one thinks youre better than them. now b4 u dig the hole any deeper, i suggest u kill yourself:)[/quote] See MePHeX, people can see your really a jackass. Im sure Kilda_Blax doesn't give a crap about what I say but he can still see how full of shit you are. If you join us in the real world now not only will you receive a free bumper sticker, you will also get a very nice keychain.(beer)act now before the offer is up, (wait it is too late you already look like a jackass)(beer)

CopyCat
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 12:27 KILDA_BLAX wrote: lol mephex u may have some knowledge and smarts, but part of being in the real world is being able to relate your knowledge/experiences w others and all u have done is act like a prick. believe me, no one thinks youre better than them. now b4 u dig the hole any deeper, i suggest u kill yourself:)[/quote] lol. He is making a fool of himself. Don't stop him, it's funny to watch. :D

MePHeX
3 years ago
lol, juggernaut21, its not "Alchemy", its nuclear fusion... but again, a different lesson altogether... ... oh well, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups... and yes, I am smarter than the lot of u (beer)

KILDA_BLAX
3 years ago
u keep saying that but we have yet to see some evidence of it

MePHeX
3 years ago
lol ok, I suppose thats subjective... well, until someone who also has experience in drifting posts here, I'll leave ya 2 to flame for a couple posts since my intial discussion was with Bassmaximus about our his aussie car and my scooby XD

juggernaut21
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 12:41 MePHeX wrote: lol, juggernaut21, its not "Alchemy", its nuclear fusion... but again, a different lesson altogether... ... oh well, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups... and yes, I am smarter than the lot of u (beer)[/quote] Its called Alchemy you stupid cunt, it started off as Alchemy, it can be done but not by you. Now your getting upset because people see how much of an ignorant fool you are.(beer) Keep on being a moron, you do it so well.(beer)

KILDA_BLAX
3 years ago
[quote]On 18-03-06 12:49 MePHeX wrote: lol ok, I suppose thats subjective... well, until someone who also has experience in drifting posts here, I'll leave ya 2 to flame for a couple posts since my intial discussion was with Bassmaximus about our his aussie car and my scooby XD[/quote] u wont be missed;) k thx bubye




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