This clip shows you the possibilities of the playstation 3 which is coming out in a couple of months time. The images are generated in real time, so you can compare this to in-game. Pretty impressive stuff huh?

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Enter the text you see:                 Blackpaw 3 years ago PS3 demo thats a first:D ahomelessman 3 years ago to me they didnt look to good Labi 3 years ago i dont care about this one. didnt look all that good. they could do all that on ps1 jahmbo 3 years ago where are the faces? The the driving games that have the great anti-aliasing. That's what I want to see sok_ngad 3 years ago not impressive. with the new physix card and way better graphics pc still rocks and always will ahomelessman 3 years ago sim city looks better than this FinalBoss 3 years ago Not impressed but still this is just a demo. Games will look much better imagen MGS4 CAAAANT WAAAAAIT ONE_MAN_GANG 3 years ago Garbage KILDA_BLAX 3 years ago im still buying it. xbox 360 was such a let down, hopefully ps3 will actually have some rpg's. Dr_Colossus 3 years ago i reckon it looked pretty sweet, although that giant ball thing must of bin pretty dam solid for a plain to not crash through it.. it just kinda bounced off haha :) ahomelessman 3 years ago [quote]On 15-04-06 12:28 KILDA_BLAX wrote: im still buying it. xbox 360 was such a let down, hopefully ps3 will actually have some rpg's.[/quote] i uh......like ...jeez um your..... pictue legion 3 years ago [quote]On 15-04-06 10:48 Labi wrote: i dont care about this one. didnt look all that good. they could do all that on ps1[/quote] stop talking out your arse yamum 3 years ago wasnt that great, still looked fake KILDA_BLAX 3 years ago im praying that virtual reality becomes mainstream before i die or am too old and mature to care, but i dont c that happening paintedface 3 years ago I'LL STICK WITH MY VIRTUAL BOY THANK YOU VERY MUCH! What do IGN, XBOX, and EBAUMS all have in common besides their mutual enjoyment of sucking little boy's limp penises? Oh wait, that was supposed to be the punchline. BOZOZO 3 years ago Not bad at all,but i'm waiting to see some in-game videos,then i'll be able to judge more properly.As far as i have seen,sony only showed cinematics and tried to fool everybody by saying it was in-game videos,like killzone 2,that was a big laugh.:D GodlessOne 3 years ago I'm kinda hesistant to believe it. Since Sony did release an FMV of Killzone 2 and try to pass it off as ingame. Badboy1986 3 years ago Jeez, you all just don't understand don't you? Its not the GRAPHICS that is important in this clip, its the PHYSICS. If you want to be impressed by PS3 graphics, simply check out the Killzone 2 demo for the PS3. juggernaut22 3 years ago [quote]On 15-04-06 12:28 KILDA_BLAX wrote: im still buying it. xbox 360 was such a let down, hopefully ps3 will actually have some rpg's.[/quote] agree, EVEN tho I didn't buy the Xbox360, I think the PS3 will play both the PS2, and PS1 games. I'll take my chances with PS3 anyday. BOZOZO 3 years ago [quote]On 15-04-06 16:10 Badboy1986 wrote: Jeez, you all just don't understand don't you? Its not the GRAPHICS that is important in this clip, its the PHYSICS. If you want to be impressed by PS3 graphics, simply check out the Killzone 2 demo for the PS3.[/quote] I know bambino,that it is the physics,which are ok,but i'm just pointing out the fact that sony already tried to fool people once,so now i'll trust what i can try and play,that's all. And godless,u know what i'm talking about.(beer) VoloV 3 years ago The only reason Killzone 2 was pre rendered the studio did not have a Dev Kit. A big P.C like thing that simulates the PS3 so they build it with out one and went a little over board. However if you look at the MGS4 trailer they were about right it just was not real time. These Physics are amazing with the realistic metal structure rather that dense blocks. PS3 will rule because its a console not a squashed up PC that will be out of date in 5 minuites. PS2 is not far off from Xbox see game conparasons of games on both systems e.g Tomb Raider Legends. Blackbeard 3 years ago a good vid card and some RAID works for me mike_995 3 years ago Big deal, I wont beleive anything I see from sony until the console comes out as at the E3 showing they did not have a single piece of real game footage. It was all prerendered including I8, which looked bad in the firstplace. Sony does this every E3 showing the ps2 was supposed to have graphics as good as Toy Story. Psycosamurai 3 years ago Man, the DoF (depth of feild) and anti-aliasing on the graphics + the physics in realtime without a buffer is quite amazing, the last one where the plane wrecks the entire hangar is the true test of a physics engine. As for graphics all aside from the oil was ok, and as for it being on the PS1, yea right not possible that movie is in 1280x1024 rez or higher, PS1 is on a base 320x240 so BIG fucking difference in performance. dillfly2000 3 years ago [quote]On 15-04-06 10:48 Labi wrote: i dont care about this one. didnt look all that good. they could do all that on ps1[/quote] no they couldnt! and this is not ps3, its a seperate card for pc that is in development, its a new way to run games with great physics without straining the vid card. this is very real, and this is as good as it gets as of to date, its very hard to make things break and move properly and randomly in realtime. http://www.ageia.com/products/physx.html The_Devil 3 years ago Although a computer is more capable of producing better graphics, how much would it cost to get a system capable of playing most of the titles with the hires graphics? not only that its hard for me to operate the controls to most games on a computer. it is cool but I'll still wait patiently for the ps3. oh yeah, the xbox 360 is a piece of shit. with that said I'm going to go take a shit. KILDA_BLAX 3 years ago plus with pc games u have to update yr game card every year - year and 1/2, and the fu.ckers cost like $300 leebitter 3 years ago i was going to buy ps3, but if it looks like this i wont. cool avatar jahmbo :D (beer)(beer)(beer) Sylver 3 years ago [quote]On 15-04-06 21:48 The_Devil wrote: Although a computer is more capable of producing better graphics, how much would it cost to get a system capable of playing most of the titles with the hires graphics? not only that its hard for me to operate the controls to most games on a computer. it is cool but I'll still wait patiently for the ps3. oh yeah, the xbox 360 is a piece of shit. with that said I'm going to go take a shit.[/quote] Morning Dev :D I don't agree, I like playing games on the pc, more then i do on the ps2. The graphics are better, the controls are easier and going online is easier en more fun. Maybe the ps3 can change my mind, but i doubt that :o legion 3 years ago yer true sylver, i hardly play my ps2 anymore but u have to admit it is hard keeping up with the pc updates :( Rosho 3 years ago PS2 is the best. I can't wait for the next GTA to come out!! dillfly2000 3 years ago actually from what i only read, so far the ps3 is taking the lead in graphics, but with the delay of the release, pc just may catch up, cell proccesing is very powerfull and since the ps3 is taking advantage of that, its gunna be one kick-ass machine, soon pc's will take on cell proccesing and i think the world is gunna end. Psycosamurai 3 years ago Man I took a look at those PhysX cards........ i'm speachless all I can say is i hope i have enough money to buy a Falcon Northwest comp when UT2007 comes out... fonzie 3 years ago heyyy Skky 3 years ago that sucked mike_995 3 years ago Ps3 is not taking any graphics leads, it has a modified 7800 gtx big deal. Sorry but the xbox 360 is faster in every manor look at both of the architectures and youll know right away. The xbox 360 has a modified R600, which is atis next high performance card. The xbox 360's gpu has the power of an X1900 XT which anhilates the 7800 gtx. The ps3 will look horribly inferior compared to pcs because its coming out around the Direct X 10 erra. Along with the release of the 64 pipeline R600 from ati, the ps3 will look like a toy. Cell processing is not powerfull btw. It shares a single 512 kb cache for all of those spes and the ppe, meaning they will be starved of data and nearly useless. Pc's will never take on cell processing as it is inferior, any single core processor of today could rip apart the cells bottlenecked architecture with in-order processing. Dont be fooled by sonys wonder machine they bs their way through every console launch, the console comes out no wheres near as powerfull as they told you, but their loyal fans buy their products even though they were lied to. The ps3s launch was delayed for blu-ray not for graphical performance increases. dillfly2000 3 years ago [quote]On 16-04-06 20:33 mike_995 wrote: Ps3 is not taking any graphics leads, it has a modified 7800 gtx big deal. Sorry but the xbox 360 is faster in every manor look at both of the architectures and youll know right away. The xbox 360 has a modified R600, which is atis next high performance card. The xbox 360's gpu has the power of an X1900 XT which anhilates the 7800 gtx. The ps3 will look horribly inferior compared to pcs because its coming out around the Direct X 10 erra. Along with the release of the 64 pipeline R600 from ati, the ps3 will look like a toy. Cell processing is not powerfull btw. It shares a single 512 kb cache for all of those spes and the ppe, meaning they will be starved of data and nearly useless. Pc's will never take on cell processing as it is inferior, any single core processor of today could rip apart the cells bottlenecked architecture with in-order processing. Dont be fooled by sonys wonder machine they bs their way through every console launch, the console comes out no wheres near as powerfull as they told you, but their loyal fans buy their products even though they were lied to. The ps3s launch was delayed for blu-ray not for graphical performance increases.[/quote] http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-x-1985-x-x-x?tag= boxcar_all_features_image actually it is taking a lead, the console utilizes it technology specifically for gamming, i think the only thing that can compare in the pc world is dells xps600, I think u heard about the cell processor, but u don't even know that it's its great for gaming, as IBM says.Each different configuration of the cell processor uses a different type of interface.The XDR,which allows it to run at 3.2 GHZ ( it is used in ps3) and the FlexyOL interface, which runs at 6.4 GHZ. If gaming is to be considered, the one which will be used is the one with the XDR, becasue i think the other one will be damn expensive, and becasue the XDR is better for gaming ( that's why it's put in the ps3). crass 3 years ago YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS! This demo has absolutely nothing to do with the PLAYSTATION3. This was an old demo for a PC physics card made by Ageia. An overpriced, $300 physics card that works together with a graphics card. Morons....argh! The xbox360 and the Ps3 are almost identical in specs, the ps3 is slightly better (bluray, 60gb hard drive, free network play...etc blah blah). The PS3 will win the console war because of this false information...that and Japan won't touch an American console. mike_995 3 years ago So you are saying that 512 kb cache is adequate for 9 cores ????. There will be soo many cache misses that the rest of the cores will be horribly slow. The cell is nothing but hot air, and will never cut it in the pc space. You do know what in-order is right ? that is the biggest bottleneck in the whole design of that cell processor, this is a execution process that was ditched by Intel and Amd over 10 years ago. Think of it this way, the Intel conroe intels next desktop core will utilise a single 4000 kb cache for only 2 cores. Also these spes have no branch predictor, another bottleneck. I can tell you this anything made in consoles is all for wonder and made to be cheap, consoles become more innovative because of computers, without computers they would sit where they are, consoles follow computers. Computers will never follow consoles, the ps3 is nothing compared to computers today. Any sli/crossfire or even single x1900 xt setup would blow away the ps3 anyday. Computers are already way ahead of any of the consoles which are supposedly "built for the future" doesnt seem like they are, considering none run Direct X 10 code. Clock speed means nothing nowadays, thats why pentium 4's are clocked much higher then amds but run much slower per clock. When sony shows me one oz of proof of their consoles power I might beleive that it is powerfull but untill they stop spreading around garbage CG and doing nothing but showing metal cases at E3 then I refuse to beleive that the ps3 is anything but a bunch of hot air. dillfly2000 3 years ago are you retarded mike? im not against any console, im a pc guy, these are just straight out facts that are so far on paper, you dont have to get all high and mighty about it, and since the ps3 is not yet out, how do we know that it may or may not perform well. unless you have a time machine?... do u? or just another ripped off xbox360 owner? ahomelessman 3 years ago you go girl mike_995 3 years ago No im not retarded I happen to actually understand its architecture and understand that its not fast, I do not own an xbox 360, and the only console users who will be getting ripped off are the consumers of the ps3 who will pay anywhere from 600 $ us, as the price of the ps3 is 499-599 euros in france, announced by a french vp to sony. You clearly do not understand how many inherant bottlenecks there are in the cells archetecure. And you also musnt understand that nothing in consoles ever stands up to the pc space. Consoles are made to be cheap nothing more nothing less, they are for the less knowledgeable consumer who doesnt want to upgrade for their games, they dont want to deal with viruses and alike. Anyone with knowledge can speculate on performance, and sonys smoke and mirror shows dont seem to promising to me as its simply cheating the eyes of your audience, why cheat ?, GDC they announced nothing they had a few interactive demos which looked like garbage, the devs have had dev kits for over 1 year, I expect more then tracks in dirt. If the cell was this wonderfull amazing archetecture then Intel and AMD would move towards this archetecture, but they both know how slow it is. Why is it that sony faked their terraflop number ? why do they need to run prerendered cg footage when game developers have had lots of time to develop games. Let me ask you this, are you getting toy story graphics on your ps2 yet ?, the emmotion engine was hyped to an equal ammount as the cell,and was supposedly a PC KILLER, but did it ever even enter the pc market ? no because it was immediatly outpaced by medocre desktop solutions. dillfly2000 3 years ago "mike_995", u are right, i have been following the whole console wars since it started, im not siding with a console, i own them all, and i honestly prefer pc, due to the freedom and upgradability, i just do not see any sense in actually arguing that the ps3 will not be better than or (just as) the 360, i know the pc world will always triumph, but console devs are starting to turn their attention away from making their systems built like a pc and more focusing on what a kind of technology they need to make a game run at extreme detail. i do know about the footage that was shown for the ps3 that apparently was CG, but from i heard, was that it wasnt CG, it was realtime but at low frames, and was actually sped up to make it look like it was running smooth, sony also said that the game shown will look very close to what they have shown, with lower res and some details turned down, but this actually proves that the ps3 can handle shaders, lighting, and high res textures at awesome quality. did you see the MGS preview?, witch was "btw" run in realtime. mike_995 3 years ago Yes but mgs looked bad, incorporated terrible lighting ,bad pixel shading, horrible environnements. It didnt look good at all, it was an In engine demo which is completly different from actual interactivity that a player will experience, its in a more controled manor. dillfly2000 3 years ago you cannot say that looked bad, i am an "indie" game developer, and i know what i see, and for the amount of detail and lighting, and shader support, it is amzingly detailed, anybody who understands the world of game devolpment should never say that mgs for the ps3 looked bad, gameplay may be crappy i dont know, but for the visual, nobody should argue that. ahomelessman 3 years ago ^^and it looks like a cartoon^^ dillfly2000 3 years ago [quote]On 19-04-06 04:22 ahomelessman wrote: ^^and it looks like a cartoon^^[/quote] im not talking bout the vid provided by dumpalink, its another thread changer, i gotta save my opinions for forums. jahmbo 3 years ago [quote]On 19-04-06 04:20 dillfly2000 wrote: you cannot say that looked bad, i am an "indie" game developer, and i know what i see, and for the amount of detail and lighting, and shader support, it is amzingly detailed, anybody who understands the world of game devolpment should never say that mgs for the ps3 looked bad, gameplay may be crappy i dont know, but for the visual, nobody should argue that.[/quote] what's an "indie" game developer. Camlaf_ 3 years ago [quote]On 19-04-06 04:20 dillfly2000 wrote: you cannot say that looked bad, i am an "indie" game developer, and i know what i see, and for the amount of detail and lighting, and shader support, it is amzingly detailed, anybody who understands the world of game devolpment should never say that mgs for the ps3 looked bad, gameplay may be crappy i dont know, but for the visual, nobody should argue that.[/quote] yea it took alot of time to make ,but stacked against whats out there and coming out for PC's and xbox360 it's nothing new or unseen. dillfly2000 3 years ago [quote]On 19-04-06 07:48 jahmbo wrote: [..] what's an "indie" game developer.[/quote] like a freelance game maker, no big company, mike_995 3 years ago Im sorry but I see nothing impressive about that Cutscene, cutscenes look good on any hardware, whats soo different. There are a number of things that point to this being fake, the mgs trailer for one there arent any visible polygons if you will squary objects, there is hdr and antialiasing running at the same time which is nVidia video cards cannot render this is something that only ati can do atm. This also Is not in-engine, ai doesnt react like that, move like that, neither do characters. Take that trailer for what it really is, a prerendered cutscene. Which is no display of hardware performance, especially since there isnt any physics, ai which is the prime job of a processor when running a game code, how ever this does not apply to this cutscene because its another bs cinematic/cutscene. dillfly2000 3 years ago if you look close enough, you will see the jagies from the aliasing, and there are some textures that do not look fit for cg, like, but that doesnt matter, because the msg demo was run on a ps3 devkit, which is the bare bones of the ps3. how do you know that hdr and antialiasing will not run on the ps3, maybe nvidia enabled it to work for the ps3,(if not) you can also make the same effect with bloom lighting. check: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83w4-tvHDTs&feature= PlayList&p=8FF94766E91BE9D0&index=1 The_Devil 3 years ago I hate to dive in the middle of a good conversation, and it is an interesting conversation. But, The thing I'm looking forward is how smooth FPS games run on a game system. the graphics are important to me but the best thing is how much bigger the games are going to be. I bought two computers in dec and both played every game on the market(halflife 2 is a little jagged) but how long will these computers play every game? I would be the hard core computer gamer has to spend a small fortune to keep up with tech. My buying point is an xbox and ps is always up to date. the other issue I have is (for me) the controls suck for a computer. Last is where you can play the different systems. I hooked up my xbox, xbox360 ps2 and a few of the older systems. to hook my computer up would be a bit of a hassle and the controls would be hard to play sitting in my favorite chair. as far as the ps3...I have some "insider information" if you want to call it that. My father in law is a quality mgr. at sony. His job is to test products and make sure they don't have flaws. every 10000 games/movies/psp he pulls one and tests it. With that said lets get to the good stuff. He has a ps3. Its not allowed to leave his office but he has even sent pictures of the prototype. he said all of the development is done for the system, they are playing with something like 300 units to make sure they won't over heat and burn up. after all recalls are expensive but consumer confidence is more costly to repair. anyhow acording to him, they are waiting until the day after thanks giving to release the unitl to boost sales(he is guessing) and they have already given away 100 promotional ps3 to come out in a few weeks/month. they will be give away units along with a game for various function. mike_995 3 years ago Not near as realistic looking, you cannot see any jaggies if you watch this trailer in High def, stream it from gametrailers.com they have high def footage of the game, its nothing impressive, its a cutscene like all other consoles can do in a cutscene. Thats not one bit of proof show. Mgs will not look near as good as that I can tell you right now, nVidia didnt enable that for ps3, the ps3 has a modified 7800 gtx nothing more, nothing less. The only modified part of the gpu is that its made on a 90nm process. I wasnt talking about jaggies btw, I was talking about the polygons in the models, everything is perfectly round. There are also heavy ammounts of post processing effects used, which game devs dont use In game because they are annoying to look at. dillfly2000 3 years ago [quote]On 19-04-06 23:12 The_Devil wrote: I hate to dive in the middle of a good conversation, and it is an interesting conversation. But, The thing I'm looking forward is how smooth FPS games run on a game system. the graphics are important to me but the best thing is how much bigger the games are going to be. I bought two computers in dec and both played every game on the market(halflife 2 is a little jagged) but how long will these computers play every game? I would be the hard core computer gamer has to spend a small fortune to keep up with tech. My buying point is an xbox and ps is always up to date. the other issue I have is (for me) the controls suck for a computer. Last is where you can play the different systems. I hooked up my xbox, xbox360 ps2 and a few of the older systems. to hook my computer up would be a bit of a hassle and the controls would be hard to play sitting in my favorite chair. as far as the ps3...I have some "insider information" if you want to call it that. My father in law is a quality mgr. at sony. His job is to test products and make sure they don't have flaws. every 10000 games/movies/psp he pulls one and tests it. With that said lets get to the good stuff. He has a ps3. Its not allowed to leave his office but he has even sent pictures of the prototype. he said all of the development is done for the system, they are playing with something like 300 units to make sure they won't over heat and burn up. after all recalls are expensive but consumer confidence is more costly to repair. anyhow acording to him, they are waiting until the day after thanks giving to release the unitl to boost sales(he is guessing) and they have already given away 100 promotional ps3 to come out in a few weeks/month. they will be give away units along with a game for various function. [/quote] sweet deal man, so u probably would know more than mike an I, as far as insider information goes. what a wierd place to argue consoles, Dumpalink.com jahmbo 3 years ago [quote]On 19-04-06 10:30 dillfly2000 wrote: [..] like a freelance game maker, no big company, [/quote] I've heard the terminology before. A friend of mine is starting a festival for indie game developers, called Supercade. It's just in the beginning stages, but that's where i've heard the term. Otherwise I have no idea about gaming. :) mofo_killa 3 years ago [quote]On 20-04-06 05:51 jahmbo wrote: [..] I've heard the terminology before. A friend of mine is starting a festival for indie game developers, called Supercade. It's just in the beginning stages, but that's where i've heard the term. Otherwise I have no idea about gaming. :) [/quote] wot up jahmbo maan (j)(j) jahmbo 3 years ago who's mofo_killa? Uh, wot up! da_devil 3 years ago [quote]On 20-04-06 06:04 jahmbo wrote: who's mofo_killa? Uh, wot up! [/quote] hahahahah it's adude maan.......:D:D:D jahmbo 3 years ago i KNEW it. I really did. You can't fool me with that mofo killa stuff. I knew it was you hiding behind that nice ass ADUDE 3 years ago [quote]On 20-04-06 06:21 jahmbo wrote: i KNEW it. I really did. You can't fool me with that mofo killa stuff. I knew it was you hiding behind that nice ass [/quote] yep it's me dawg........:D you know it's me when the new guys got a nice per a cheeks as an avatar ;) jahmbo 3 years ago what's up dr. multiple personalities? How many versions of you are there? You know, i"ve thought about becoming someone else on dumpalink. You know, fooling people and picking a fight with myself, but I'm just too lazy. Hanzo2 3 years ago That's the curse of the hard core....you always gotta be on the cutting edge.;'(:D(beer) 1Jagger1 2 years ago the explosions were seriously dissapointing... there are better looking ones in XBox 360... but everything else looked amazing, especially if those were made actually using a physics engine and not a cut-scene of what it may looks like when it's done Jakeypops 2 years ago PS3 SUCKS! xbox360 is the shit!(j)